Quia nec honesto quic quam honestius nec turpi turpius. Istam voluptatem, inquit, Epicurus ignorat? Certe, nisi voluptatem tanti aestimaretis. Quod quidem iam fit etiam in Academia. Quis enim redargueret? Efficiens dici potest. Quamquam tu hanc copiosiorem etiam soles dicere. Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum.
Sunt enim prima elementa naturae, quibus auctis vírtutis quasi germen efficitur. Nonne videmus quanta perturbatio rerum omnium consequatur, quanta confusio? Sextilio Rufo, cum is rem ad amicos ita deferret, se esse heredem Q. Quorum sine causa fieri nihil putandum est. Cuius ad naturam apta ratio vera illa et summa lex a philosophis dicitur.
Pugnant Stoici cum Peripateticis. Sin eam, quam Hieronymus, ne fecisset idem, ut voluptatem illam Aristippi in prima commendatione poneret. Vos autem cum perspicuis dubia debeatis illustrare, dubiis perspicua conamini tollere. Sin tantum modo ad indicia veteris memoriae cognoscenda, curiosorum. Virtutis, magnitudinis animi, patientiae, fortitudinis fomentis dolor mitigari solet. Obsecro, inquit, Torquate, haec dicit Epicurus? Hosne igitur laudas et hanc eorum, inquam, sententiam sequi nos censes oportere? Quid iudicant sensus? Quodsi ipsam honestatem undique pertectam atque absolutam.
Illa sunt similia: hebes acies est cuipiam oculorum, corpore alius senescit; Itaque hic ipse iam pridem est reiectus; At miser, si in flagitiosa et vitiosa vita afflueret voluptatibus. Et certamen honestum et disputatio splendida! omnis est enim de virtutis dignitate contentio. Expectoque quid ad id, quod quaerebam, respondeas. Animi enim quoque dolores percipiet omnibus partibus maiores quam corporis. Quasi vero, inquit, perpetua oratio rhetorum solum, non etiam philosophorum sit.
Oratio me istius philosophi non offendit; At habetur! Et ego id scilicet nesciebam! Sed ut sit, etiamne post mortem coletur? Bonum patria: miserum exilium. Conclusum est enim contra Cyrenaicos
satis acute, nihil ad Epicurum. Non minor, inquit, voluptas percipitur ex vilissimis rebus quam ex pretiosissimis. Quare obscurentur etiam haec, quae secundum naturam esse dicimus, in vita beata;
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Nec vero alia sunt quaerenda contra Carneadeam illam sententiam. Negat esse eam, inquit, propter se expetendam. Urgent tamen et nihil remittunt. Tamen a proposito, inquam, aberramus. Sed tamen est aliquid, quod nobis non liceat, liceat illis. Sed haec nihil sane ad rem; Ratio quidem vestra sic cogit. Duo Reges: constructio interrete.
Hoc dictum in una re latissime patet, ut in omnibus factis re, non teste moveamur. Sed quod proximum fuit non vidit. Sed vos squalidius, illorum vides quam niteat oratio. Non est ista, inquam, Piso, magna dissensio. Minime id quidem, inquam, alienum, multumque ad ea, quae quaerimus, explicatio tua ista profecerit. Sed nimis multa.
Haec et tu ita posuisti, et verba vestra sunt. Aut haec tibi, Torquate, sunt vituperanda aut patrocinium voluptatis repudiandum. Nos paucis ad haec additis finem faciamus aliquando; Indicant pueri, in quibus ut in speculis natura cernitur. Eaedem res maneant alio modo. Nunc omni virtuti vitium contrario nomine opponitur. Respondent extrema primis, media utrisque, omnia omnibus. Audio equidem philosophi vocem, Epicure, sed quid tibi dicendum sit oblitus es. Intrandum est igitur in rerum naturam et penitus quid ea postulet pervidendum; Zenonis est, inquam, hoc Stoici. Si de re disceptari oportet, nulla mihi tecum, Cato, potest esse dissensio.
Maximas vero virtutes iacere omnis necesse est voluptate dominante. Si stante, hoc natura videlicet vult, salvam esse se, quod concedimus; Eadem nunc mea adversum te oratio est. Conferam avum tuum Drusum cum C. Fortemne possumus dicere eundem illum Torquatum? Potius ergo illa dicantur: turpe esse, viri non esse debilitari dolore, frangi, succumbere. Nec lapathi suavitatem acupenseri Galloni
Laelius anteponebat, sed suavitatem ipsam neglegebat; Nonne igitur tibi videntur, inquit, mala? Iam enim adesse poterit.
Non modo carum sibi quemque, verum etiam vehementer carum esse? Nunc vides, quid faciat. Minime vero istorum quidem, inquit. Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas disciplinas habemus; Nam illud quidem adduci vix possum, ut ea, quae senserit ille, tibi non vera videantur. Hanc quoque iucunditatem, si vis, transfer in animum; Sit enim idem caecus, debilis. Quae quo sunt excelsiores, eo dant clariora indicia naturae. Summum a vobis bonum voluptas dicitur.
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